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Constitutional Convention (Monday, March 29, 2004)

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CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION: MONDAY, MARCH 29, 2004

Rep. Bosley said same as it ever was. This is another way of coming to the same point. They don’t like that their amendment wasn’t first. Rep. Peterson is right that in many cases, we don’t take a further amendment. For example, we could amend a transportation bill with a health amendment. But this follows the same grounds. Taking a further amendment here actually makes eminent sense.Rep. Travis said I hope the ruling is upheld. But if anyone is wondering why this is happening - by having the further amendment, and having this moved up to the second degree, no further amendments can be offered. So we would have to defeat the further amendment. The clerk is correct in his ruling.Rep. Jones said not to belabor the point, but the ruling of the chair was not to entertain amendments sent to third reading. That was the procedure. But somehow we did away with that rule when it came to further amendments. Understand why that creates consternation. But there are two further amendments. Which amendments were they assigned to? Were they further amendments to the original? We don’t really know. We are not asking for sleight of hand. I hope the ruling does not stand.

The ruling was sustained on voice vote.

Question came on adoption of Travaglini-Lees further amendments. The amendment was adopted on voice vote. Rep. Peterson doubted the vote and a roll call was ordered.

The Senate roll call was taken; there was a long delay – perhaps 20 minutes - before the House roll call was opened. Members crowded around the rostrum.Rep. Finneran said thank you for the procedural discussion on which members needed guidance.

THE HOUSE VOTE WAS 86 - 72THE SENATE VOTE WAS 30 – 9BY ROLL CALL VOTE OF 118 - 81 THE TRAVAGLINI – LEES AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.Sen. Lees ordered for a Republican caucus for one hour.Sen. Lees moved for unanimous consent to withdraw his motion. He further moved for reconsideration of the prior vote. It was seconded.REPUBLICAN CAUCUS: Sen. Lees then moved for a Republican caucus for one hour under House rule 19.RECESS: Sen. Travaglini said I will grant you that request and the convention will now recess until 1 pm.

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Pictures and Photos Local News Constitutional Convention Transcripts Username Password	Constitutional Convention (Monday, March 29, 2004) «Previous Page · 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · Next Page» CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION: MONDAY, MARCH 29, 2004 Rep. Bosley said same as it ever was. This is another way of coming to the same point. They don’t like that their amendment wasn’t first. Rep. Peterson is right that in many cases, we don’t take a further amendment. For example, we could amend a transportation bill with a health amendment. But this follows the same grounds. Taking a further amendment here actually makes eminent sense.Rep. Travis said I hope the ruling is upheld. But if anyone is wondering why this is happening - by having the further amendment, and having this moved up to the second degree, no further amendments can be offered. So we would have to defeat the further amendment. The clerk is correct in his ruling.Rep. Jones said not to belabor the point, but the ruling of the chair was not to entertain amendments sent to third reading. That was the procedure. But somehow we did away with that rule when it came to further amendments. Understand why that creates consternation. But there are two further amendments. Which amendments were they assigned to? Were they further amendments to the original? We don’t really know. We are not asking for sleight of hand. I hope the ruling does not stand. The ruling was sustained on voice vote. Question came on adoption of Travaglini-Lees further amendments. The amendment was adopted on voice vote. Rep. Peterson doubted the vote and a roll call was ordered. The Senate roll call was taken; there was a long delay – perhaps 20 minutes - before the House roll call was opened. Members crowded around the rostrum.Rep. Finneran said thank you for the procedural discussion on which members needed guidance. THE HOUSE VOTE WAS 86 - 72THE SENATE VOTE WAS 30 – 9BY ROLL CALL VOTE OF 118 - 81 THE TRAVAGLINI – LEES AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.Sen. Lees ordered for a Republican caucus for one hour.Sen. Lees moved for unanimous consent to withdraw his motion. He further moved for reconsideration of the prior vote. It was seconded.REPUBLICAN CAUCUS: Sen. Lees then moved for a Republican caucus for one hour under House rule 19.RECESS: Sen. Travaglini said I will grant you that request and the convention will now recess until 1 pm. «Previous Page · 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · Next Page»